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  What is squonking?
Posted by: vern - 05-26-2015, 10:13 AM - Forum: Tutorials - Replies (3)

Squonking is a form of vaping that alters the eliquid delivery mechanism.
Instead of a tank relying on vacuum to slowly replenish the wicking material, and instead of dripping eliquid into the top of a dripper, we have a third method.

The eliquid can enter the rda from the bottom! This is NOT a new discovery, but it is fair to say it is gaining momentum currently amongst users as we are rediscovering the benefits, and the modern crop of 22mm dripping atomisers can be used instead of the older cartomizer method.

Sometimes called bottom-feeding, or bf, or squonk, or squonking:-) Use whichever is most comfortable:-)

1) you can walk around wtih 10ml+ of eliquid ready-to-use
2) everytime you "squonk" the bottle, the exact, precise amount of eliquid is delivered to the wicks. Fresh eliquid.
3) it is possible to go 2 or even 3 days without worrying about juice, batteries, coils, wicks
4) your wicks stay much much cleaner
5) changing the wicks is a super simple procedure, the same as you would follow for a dripping atomiser.
6) no over-dripping, no under-dripping..its like dripping, but better, as no eliquid hangs around in a hot chamber getting repeatedly heated before vapourising.

How to squonk:
1) Push your bottle gently, there is no reason to be he-man, and watch the eliquid rise into the rda
2) release the bottle, and the bottle will return to shape, but the vacuum caused by this process ends up sucking the excess eiliquid in the rda BACK into the bottle! All that is left in the rda is your nicely wet wicks and a small excess.
3) sit back and vape for a few minutes, once you feel the flavour diminishing, just gently squonk the bottle again.

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  Shops selling diy parts
Posted by: vern - 05-26-2015, 09:53 AM - Forum: Discussion - self made - Replies (4)

The following shops sell diy parts that can be utilised for squonking

stealthvape.co.uk - boxes, buttons, wires and various nik-naks you'll find handy
modmaker.co.uk - fatdaddy 510's including bf kits, boxes, switches, wires, connectors, led's etc etc. It is possible to buy all you need from this one shop, however at the time of writing, bottles and tubing werent available here.
svapiamo.com - complete bf mods, empty boxes, clone rda's, square bottles, 510's bf with catch cup

Please add more as and when you find them:-)

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  new in
Posted by: vapefan - 05-26-2015, 09:52 AM - Forum: New user introductions - Replies (7)

hi chaps/chapesses
just found this site after purchasing a cheapo squonker,Already looking for an upgrade (will probably attempt to knock one up from the cheapo as it feels cack,and i have some mahogany around somewhere) looking forward to plenty of tips from here

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  Improving Smokeless Owl button, reducing misfires to zero
Posted by: vern - 05-26-2015, 09:22 AM - Forum: Boxes and tubes - Replies (2)

After using my Smokeless Owl for over a week I started to notice a tendency for the switch to fire, but somehow we weren't getting full voltage
I stripped the whole unit and found that the firing pin passes through a metal ring, however, the firing pin was touching this ring on the side, instead of on the top as designed.

It would appear, certain length batteries (the crucial part was how low the positive contact was, compared to the wrapping area) would allow the pin to depress fully and make correct contact, whereas others would mean the pin hits the top connector of the battery before full contact with the ring is achieved.

I studied the design over a nice glass of Sambuca, and decided that the designer knew of this, and catered for it, but the parts specced were at fault.
namely, the negative contact/spring was waaay too strong. If this spring could depress slightly when you pushed the button, and pressed the battery down a bit, then you would always have full contact. This is very similar to how the KUI was deisgned.

Out comes the soldering iron, a spring was found, and this is the result.

Here is a short video showing the process..I have centered on the bottom of the battery, you can see it moving around half a mm DOWN everytime I push the firing button. This space is what was lacking on the original setup..the half mm movement now allows the switch to bottom out correctly on the contact ring.
i.e. switch travel ends when it bottoms out on the contact, NOT when it touches the top of the battery.
My clouds are now consistent.

***pls see below for another method, using the original contact points with a softer spring inserted****

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  Smokeless Owl bottle test
Posted by: vern - 05-25-2015, 10:37 AM - Forum: Boxes and tubes - No Replies

Reading competing forums, and some users seem be think the bottle on the smokeless owl is too soft.
I had a look in my vape box for suitable sized bottles, and found the ones from Darkstar Vapour to be an exact fit, size and threading are perfect.
On a hardness scale, with smokeless owl supplied bottle being a 5 out of 5 for softness, and a hangsen 10ml bottle being 1 out of 5, I would put the Darkstar bottles at somewhere between a 4 or a 4.5 They are squidgy, but not as squidgy as the supplied smokeless owl bottles.

Lets test.

Squonking up is fine, it isnt difficult, when you let go it squonks back much faster. Less than 1 or 2 seconds to return to original shape.
While this seems good, looking at the atty while squonking shows bad results. The bottle returns to shape so quickly that it actually sucks in air past the liquid..so the squonkback isnt sucking back liquid only, but a lot of air and a little bit of liquid. This was on 50/50 liquid. I'd expect the results to be worse with less flowy liquid..the liquid doesnt have a chance to flow back at the speed the bottle is sucking., ...higher vg percentage is what is normally used when dripping so this just gets worse. I dont use high pg juices anymore either.

*IF* the smokeless owl bottles are to be considered sub-par, then my search continues. However, it is relevant to note that I personally find them ok. They squish in, and they squish out, and the excess liquid returns fine. It looks lethargic sometimes, but it *works* fine.
I've returned to the OEM bottle now out of choice.

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Posted by: vern - 05-25-2015, 08:04 AM - Forum: Discussion - shop bought - No Replies

The KUI is a box made by SCANS international. It was briefly sold in some web outlets, and via forums in the UK. Cast zinc alloy and fully mechanical, suitable for 18650 batteries

In this photo, the KUI is in the centre

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  Reos Mods
Posted by: vern - 05-24-2015, 07:01 PM - Forum: Discussion - shop bought - No Replies

reo's are well known aluminium squonkers originating from america. A functional design, using reliable simple components.

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Posted by: vern - 05-24-2015, 06:42 PM - Forum: Discussion - shop bought - No Replies

Svapiamo are an overseas maker of squonkers, often wooden, and often utlising sx350 series chips. Interestingly, they sell clone atomizers from their main site too.
Some pics:


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  Early days
Posted by: vern - 05-24-2015, 06:17 PM - Forum: General chat - Replies (2)

Welcome guys and gals, and thank you for visiting/registering.
It's early days right now, I'll be adding as many resources, tutorials and links to squonking related products in the next day or so, so that we can have one indexable, searchable place to find out all about our magical squonking boxes, rda's and any required modifications.
I'll also be seeking our the latest devices for sale, home-made or otherwise.

Please stick around, introduce yourself, take a seat and get busy. If you have info to contribute, feel free to start scribbling away in the appropriate forum. Dont be shy!

Take care

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  Account Activation email
Posted by: Moto - 05-24-2015, 06:03 PM - Forum: General chat - Replies (6)

bang - straight into spam with Gmail.

in violation of Google's recommended email sender guidelines. Learn more

You might want to look at that Wernervn

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